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The Great Pendragon Campaign Part 2


#7935

Cynian sends a messenger to Ryia asking her to begin work on a vinyard (£12) and he will spend £5 to live as a normal knight £1 of which will go towards Ryia for her work as steward.

Treasury £1 10s 10d stipend £4


#7936

Animal rolls
Cynian
4d20: 15 + 19 + 1 + 2 = 37

Vonnes
5d20: 18 + 18 + 19 + 20 + 13 = 88

Edric
2d20: 1 + 11 = 12

Ryia
2d20: 18 + 1 = 19


#7937

(Needless to say Cynian’s previous steward is fired)

Cynian pulls a new Rouncy from Terrabil and renames it Bell

Edric pulls a new war pony from (thecastleheworksat) Du Pont!

Ryia pulls a new sumpter from Idmiston


#7938

If there are no other Permission or “river” problems ( @SleepyWill check the wet moat below!) that’s how Leddicus will spend his money

BASE: £28

FORTIFICATIONS (Sir Ecco’s remarks made Leddicus think about protection…and therefore he wants to go to the limits of the “bailey” concept!):

  • £12 : Bailey BUT including Complex Gateworks (Drawbridge!) rather than Simple Gatework (cost £12 instead of £10).
  • £2 Wet Moat around the Bailey (the Underditch hundred is cut in two by the Avon river, so I guess the Avon or a nearby stream or creek or other water source can be used, right? Do you approve?)

INVESTMENTS:

  • £5 Stone Weir, Kydell (on the River Avon which since it’s on a map it should be “medium” according to Estate page 94)

ITEMS TO BUY

  • £ 5 Reinforced Mail (can this be bought at the Sarum market? )

Remaining treasure AFTER the expenses = £ 4


#7939

Is there still the 1.25 modifier for building additional enhancements in estate?


#7940

I do not know, and off course it’s up to @SleepyWill although the basic premise of the whole Estate system is that estates are more stable tha manors and less dependant on changing situations…since the peasants will always pay for it!!!
The weather and war modifiers in the various GPC conditions usually do not influence estates, although after a few continuous bad years they can get the “pillaged” status (Estate pages 44-48).
Does it apply also to King taxes due to the wine story?
I do not know.
It depends on Will!


#7941

You’ll need to finish your motte and bailey to build any dependant structures, and the cost of a wet ditch around even a tiny 2 acres motte and bailey is £10 not £2.

If you don’t want to build a bailey, you can build just the bailey for £10 and drawbridge for the extra £2, and the wet ditch for £10, but then you can’t add a motte and tower later then


#7942

OK. Let get rid of the Wet Moat (for the moment).

Let have just Bailey but with Complex Gate (with a drawbridge) for £12 with enough space for motte, without building it (for the moment).

Wet moats, Mottes, towers and anything else can be added later on. OK?

Something like this WITHOUT the left part!!!


#7943

Ha, I had chosen the exact same picture as you to illustrate that mottes are generally not inside the bailey, you don’t need to leave room for it!

I think as well, when the time comes, your wet moat will be more expensive, as Woodford is not directly on the River Avon, but we can cross that bridge at the time - I suspect it will be cheaper than £5 per 1000 ft that the actual moat costs, but I’ll calculate that at the time.


#7944

Let ignore the wet moat (although I like it and I’ll make my Cornish benefactors to pay for it one day!!!).

If it was Morial I guess it would have solved the problem with a “semi-wet” moat with manure!!!

By the way, updated Expenses:

BASE 28

  • Bailey with drawbridge £12
  • Stone weir on the Avon river £ 5
  • Reinforced Mail suit £ 5

Remaining treasure: £ 6

OK???


#7945

Looks good to me, I agree that estates do not need to pay the multiplier - I’ll rethink that if you have more construction projects going than manors on your estate, bit you don’t so it’s fine.


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#7946

Lucky enough Underditch has 2 manors in the same estate!


#7947

It makes sense with economies of scale. A greater workforce is available.


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#7951

OK, this post is for me to organize myself. I will enact on this in a few hours.

I have some Estate improvements I would like to make with Ullin, but I do not have his info on me. So I will try to get that sorted tonight. He has £3 from this year and I need to total his money from last year and for capturing Octa (£50?), and minus the expenses (I believe he gave Cubeth some money and a nice wedding gift, but I think that is all he spent money on. He is concern with the Saxons and Uther’s lack of interest in engaging them and is looking to put up some defensive fortifications. What would be permissible?

Cubeth and Foxcotte. Since she got married and acquired some land, she is going to be moved over to Book of the Estate. I had discussed this a while back with Will, but forgot to send the confirmation to him. I believe she will have the same number of lands as Ullin so receives £3. She has a little money left from what Ullin gave her before the funeral feast (have the amount at home) and she had no money to start the year. She also has a dowry which I am going to roll after this post which will be added to her funds.

Does she get a stipend for being at Terrabil? What can that be spent on?

After that, I will roll on the horses. Does her war pony take a -1 for the injury from the boar?

And I think, after all of that… I might be caught up?


#7952

I found this as I was going back through the last winter. Just thought I would remind everyone since we were talking money…


#7953

Shoot, I realised I forgot this!

Cubeth Dowry:
d6: 4


#7954

So, I believe this will cover Winter 491…

Ullin
£2.3.5 - From the treasury (Last years cash on hand…)
+£3 - This year income
+£14 - Saxon Treasure from last year (that was tied up last winter)
+£50 - Prize from Capture of King Octa (I believe the charger was added to the herd last year… If not, this year)
+£1 - From Mellisarium
-£6 - To Cubeth for Funeral Feast
-£6 - Cubeth Wedding Gift (£5 Wolf head clasp +£1 Fur with liner)
Total on hand currently £58.3.5

I believe there is a joust arena finishing this year. I was wanting to do some construction this year

Also, Narwar had £2.4.0 on him when he went mad. Any chance that came back with his belongings?


Cubeth
£0 - From the treasury (Last years cash on hand…)
£2 - Left over from Ullin for Funeral Feast (£2 spent on clothes, £2 spent on hairpin)
£4 - From Dowry (See dice roll above)
-5s -For 5 Boar Spears (Only has 3 now as 2 were given away to Sir Angaz)
-£1 -Wedding help gift to Lady Violette
Total on hand currently £4.15.0 + £4 stipend…

She has a joust list already and I believe the apiary would finish this year, does that need a die roll since it was started with BotM?

Let me know if this looks, OK.


#7955

No to Narwar’s money… I’ve spent it for him :smiling_imp: and no to a roll for the apiary, it becomes a mellisarium and completes this year. The rest looks fine to me.

I believe that’s everyone done with their economics, so moving on to the dreaded

Stable Rolls

for those who haven’t already rolled!


#7956

Shoot! I forgot to type in the improvements!
I was having a similar idea of a motte and bailey fortification but it sounds like a motte requires permission. So My intent is to build similar to @LucaCherstich and put in the motte and a ditch later.

Ullin <-- Is not a dragon, will spend some money…
Total on hand currently £58.3.5
-£12: Bailey with Complex Gate
-£4: Manor Hall Enclosure (DV4: 4 Glory)
-£7: Cursed Sheep Herd
-£15: Vaccary, Dairy
New Total in the Treasury £27.3.5


Cubeth
Cubeth will not make any improvements this year.

I figured this to be the case, but never hurts to ask what happened to it!


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#7957

Everyone should have the same number of horses from last years rolls. Should I assume Narwar’s horses were returned to Burcombe?

Ullin
Fury, Charger d20: 9
Rouncy 1 d20: 9
Rouncy 2 d20: 8
Sumpter d20: 9

Narwar Horses returned to Burcombe
Bay, Charger d20: 6
Rouncy d20: 17
Sumpter d20: 6

Cubeth
War Pony d20: 19
Rouncy 1 d20: 10
Rouncy 2 d20: 12
Sumpter d20: 11